LETTERS TO THE EDITOR
King’s College Today

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The most recent issue of CCT (September)
was great. The excerpt from Stand, Columbia
was fascinating. Now I’ll have to buy the
book!
Lee J. Dunn Jr. ’66
Boston
Kudos for the 250th Anniversary Special Issue of King’s
College Today. It was informative, colorful and a delight
for a former history major who is keenly interested in the history
of King’s College.
Keep up the great work. It is a truly
marvelous publication.
Warren L. Kimball ’58
Lake Success, N.Y.
The September issue of CCT was excellent,
and I am grateful that it steered me to attend the
memorial celebration
of Jim Shenton ’49’s life on October
2, a wonderful event. The following Saturday, I
decided that this might well be the year that we
finally beat Princeton on its home field, and my
seatmate, Steve Ronai ’57, and I were ecstatic
at our comeback from 20–0 to win 33–27
in the final seconds.
With the start of the 250th anniversary celebration,
I was baffled by a date I saw on the refurbished
frieze in the lobby of Hamilton Hall. As it was
not highlighted in blue until recently, the date
“1756” was never apparent to me. Looking
through the timeline on the website, I still could
not associate 1756 with anything significant in
the College’s history. Can anyone help?
Charlie Feuer ’58
Stamford, Conn.
Professor Said
I was moved by the passing of Edward Said. Of all
the outstanding professors I had at Columbia College,
he was probably the greatest, and he left an indelible
mark on me as no one else did.
When I was at Columbia, Professor Said was full
of the energy and enthusiasm of youth. I visited
him one time a couple of years ago at a seminar
on Irish literature for undergraduates, and even
though his body was wracked with cancer, his mind
was full of the same passion of his youth but his
thoughts were even more profound and insightful
than I even remembered.
Although Professor Said was a great critic of the
Age of Imperialism, he also had an immense love
of the outstanding individual writers who constituted
that age. I am sure that in another age, another
time, Said would himself have been Sir Richard Burton
or Rudyard Kipling. No other critic I have read
has been able to capture the absolute joy these
writers experienced in the process of discovery.
It was as much fun for me to listen to Professor
Said talk about Kipling’s Kim as
a student or later to read about it in Culture
and Imperialism as it was to read the novel.
Above all else, Professor Said turned literary criticism
into an art and made interpretation a necessary
bedfellow of literature. He has had a profound effect
on the writing of literature. No Australian author
can write a historical novel about that country
today without being aware of Said’s insights
on the imperial dimensions of Magwitch in Dickens’
Great Expectations. The film version of
Jane Austen’s Mansfield Park also
was obviously influenced by Said’s writings
on the contextualization of British Imperialism
in that novel.
On the one hand, Professor Said was tremendously
taken with the idea that writers shape their work
and their lives around themes and concerns that
they had already begun in the production of earlier
literary pieces. I, as anyone else, can see that
in my life. If I read my life backward, there are
certain realities that had they not happened —
among them, most importantly, having been a student
of Professor Said — my life would have been
completely different. On the other hand, Professor
Said has contextualized literature into the world
of social science and historical discourse and in
the actual events, concerns and values of a particular
age. It can no longer be assumed that literary critics
are people with their heads in the air, concerning
themselves about things that have nothing to do
with the “real” world. Nor can it be
assumed that literary critics don’t know enough
about politics, so they don’t have the right
to speak about things of which they are ignorant.
For ever more, Edward Said has shown us that literature
and literary criticism belong to and are a part
of the real world of political discourse.
For me, Said will always be Undershaft in George
Bernard Shaw’s Major Barbara (another
work that he taught me), full of irreverence, but
also full of the joy of life, whose meaning derives
from the actions one takes in the here and now to
try to create a new society from the old. Professor
Said will be deeply missed.
Dr. Alan Z. Weiss ’68
Verdun, Quebec
In just a few months, two of the most influential
professors — Jim Shenton ’49 and Edward
Said — in my Columbia College education (and
in my entire education) passed away. I did not get
the chance to write about Professor Shenton, but
I did not want to let Professor Said’s loss
go without writing.
I met Edward Said when I was meandering through
my English and Comparative Literature major. My
era at the College was a goldmine of amazing and
brilliant literature professors. One of these giants,
my adviser, Edward Tayler, suggested I consider
as my senior seminar a course being taught by Professor
Said. It was a small class, and Said interviewed
the seniors. I prepared as best I could for what
I thought would be flurry of questions about my
previous studies, and while those did come, he started
by grilling me about some campus political issue
that I worked on when I was a University senator.
From then on, Professor Said and I had the chance
to mix our politics with our love for literature
and learning. As to the course itself, Professor
Said was one of those teachers I have been lucky
to have who inspired (perhaps forced) me to go deeper
in anything we considered or discussed. I read better
because of him, and I surely write better as well.
Somehow, I ended up writing my thesis on analyzing
Freud’s The Interpretation of Dreams
as if it were a piece of literature, and it was
one of the most difficult and rewarding projects
I had in any school.
While we kept in somewhat loose touch over the
years, Professor Said found time to let me know
his views on the few cases or matters I worked on
that became matters of public interest and media
attention. Just as he had done when I was sitting
around the seminar table, however, his comments
made me think harder than or in a direction that
I had not done on my own. I think that is one of
Professor Said’s lasting legacies to all with
whom he came into contact.
Through the years, as I became more opinionated
about issues in the Middle East and as I became
a stronger supporter for Israel and its positions
and actions, it was all the better for me that Professor
Said became more outspoken about his views, many
of which infuriated me and about which I could not
have agreed less. Yet, I found myself bringing up
a “Said point of view” when my friends
or family would have discussions about these same
Mideast topics, often over holiday tables. After
getting over the shock of something I said to provoke
more discussion or the other point of view, their
response was always something such as, “Oh
yeah, he was your professor at Columbia.”
My reply then, as it is now, is “Yes he was,
and I am a whole lot better off for that time I
had with him.”
In the classroom, in his books, on the op-ed page
or in a television discussion, Professor Said made
all of us better thinkers, and isn’t that
what a professor is supposed to do?
Abbe D. Lowell ’74
Potomac, Md.
Edward Said was my sophomore English teacher at
Columbia during the 1967 war. I hadn’t realized
that the professor standing before the class in
Hamilton Hall was an Arab, much less a Palestinian,
and it would be a year or two before I even knew
that there could be such a person as a “Palestinian.”
I remember his wry tone and how his four o’clock
shadow would shine through his cheeks in ways that
would remind me of my older brother, who had died
a few years before. If anything, I would have thought
our professor was Jewish, and a version of my older
brother. I don’t remember anything that we
studied; only that he radiated a sense of profound
culture and compassion, that literature truly mattered,
and that a vast intelligence flowed from reading
great works.
I believe classes were over when the war broke
out. I stayed up all night, distraught, and in the
very early morning, I sat on the Sundial and read
the newspaper. One story reported anti-Jewish riots
in Morocco and of Jews getting their throats slit,
and I wept in the dawn quiet at the horrors of war
and hatred. I had no idea of the tears that my professor
may have shed.
When Orientalism appeared, and particularly when
Said began to speak out about the plight of the
Palestinians, I realized that our paths had crossed
at a historic juncture, as minor as that encounter
may have been in his eyes. He spoke out as a Palestinian
sympathetic to the history of Jewish suffering and
I as a Jew critical of Israel and Zionism, and the
irony of having been in his class in June 1967 was
driven home. As the years passed, I would have many
occasions to meet him at political events in support
of Middle East peace and at academic conferences
and to say hello and remind each other of that moment.
Said’s intellectual work became increasingly
important to me. His approach to literature and
culture brought in harsh social realities that had
previously been rendered invisible. He brought in
politics and history while at the same time exulting
in the qualities of literature despite (or even
because of) the influence of imperial agendas and
other material impositions. To realize how the Orientalist
outlook affects George Elliot or Herman Melville
or T.S. Eliot only broadens the response to the
text; it does not narrow it or denigrate it, as
some suggest. Reading Orientalism, I was reminded
of the sense I had felt in that classroom in 1967,
the deep experience of literature and culture. Edward
Said had remained my professor.
I cannot call myself one of his close friends,
and we were never colleagues. I can only count myself
as one of his former students, an unexceptional
undergraduate in a required course, but his presence
and his work have deeply affected me. I teach at
Stanford, and there is no Sundial. But when I heard
the news of Edward Said’s death, I walked
to the Quad, the center of this campus, and I wept
for my teacher.
Hilton Obenzinger ’69
Palo Alto, Calif.
In September’s issue is a piece on the opening
of the school with a brief history of other schools
that the University has started. As an alumnus of
the Agnes Russell School, I must defend my alma
mater. Agnes Russell was an experimental open classroom
school at Teachers College, in the same building
as the old Horace Mann School. It spanned first
through, I think, sixth grades. My brother and I
left in 1972, and the school was not around for
long after that.
Douglas Mintz ’84
New York City
The School at CU
Some historical information in “The School
at CU Opens” (September) is inaccurate.
The Horace Mann School opened in 1887 as The Model
School, at 9 University Place. In the early 1890s,
its name was changed to Horace Mann. It was organized
under the auspices of Teachers College when that
new enterprise decided that there should be a school
where its teachers in training could try out new
ideas in education. Its organizer and first head
later achieved some distinction at Columbia —
Dr. Nicholas Murray Butler. He continued in that
role for seven years and was succeeded by Virgil
Prettymen.
Horace Mann and Teachers College moved to the northern
wilds at 120th Street in 1901. The Horace Mann School
name is on the front of one of the Teachers College
buildings at 120th Street and Broadway.
The Speyer School was started in 1899. A 1902 quote:
“The Speyer School is intended to test and
work out new ideas in education. Horace Mann school
has for its function the demonstration of all that
is best in teaching and school management under
conditions that are as nearly ideal as possible.”
The Horace Mann School continued as a co-educational
institution until 1914, when the boys above the
sixth grade were transferred to a new campus in
Riverdale. The lower grades and the older girls
continued to reside at 120th Street until 1946.
The divided schools were a part of Teachers College
until 1947, when the boys’ school became independent
and the lower grades and the girls’ school
were merged into Lincoln School, which then became
the Horace Mann-Lincoln School and some years later
the New Lincoln School.
During the years of the Horace Mann/Teachers College
relationship, Columbia faculty were offered scholarships
for their children at HM and HM faculty were given
the opportunity to study at Columbia at minimal
cost.
Much of the above information comes from a book
published when Horace Mann celebrated its 100th
anniversary in 1987. It’s interesting to see
that after some 115 years, with a 60-year hiatus,
the experiment is being repeated.
Michael Loeb ’50
(Horace Mann ’46)
New York City
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